Khmers born in north america

[manguy44]

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[gaykhmerguy]

Khmers born abroad are the worst as they are the least loyal and least likely to help their own. I know many will get mad but I don't know many people or hear many stories about countries prospering because its people ran away. It's the people that chose to stay that build their country.

The worst thing is that those abroad are idiots as well. I mean, the % of Khmers abroad should be more educated, but it's not. Come to America and look at them!

[loplop]

Khmers born abroad are the worst as they are the least loyal and least likely to help their own. I know many will get mad but I don't know many people or hear many stories about countries prospering because its people ran away. It's the people that chose to stay that build their country.

The worst thing is that those abroad are idiots as well. I mean, the % of Khmers abroad should be more educated, but it's not. Come to America and look at them!


Khmers born abroad are the worst as they are the least loyal and least likely to help their own. I know many will get mad but I don't know many people or hear many stories about countries prospering because its people ran away. It's the people that chose to stay that build their country.

The worst thing is that those abroad are idiots as well. I mean, the % of Khmers abroad should be more educated, but it's not. Come to America and look at them!

Not always true. In the case of the Philippines overseas Filippinos sent back 14 billion USD in 2007. Their remittances play an increasingly significant role in boosting domestic consumption and assist the Phillipines economy.

This year recorded remittances worldwide will exceed $232bn. Of this, developing countries received $167bn, more than twice the level of development aid from all sources. "With the number of migrants worldwide now reaching almost 200m, their productivity and earnings are a powerful force for poverty reduction," says Francois Bourguignon, World Bank chief economist. Meanwhile, analysis shows that remittances are associated with significant drops in poverty in several poorer countries, particularly in Uganda, Bangladesh and Ghana.

In addition, the impact of remittances appears to help households keep their head above water in times of domestic economic crisis. Money sent back home triggers investment in education and health as well as fuelling entrepreneurship, the report found.

I think in the case of Cambodia you haven't a different situation. For one thing it was a communist class war, survival of the fittest that was done in the name of the poor. That did not make many refugees want to start sending back money to help their homeland. The other thing is the security situation in Cambodia was not good secure enough for people to safely return until the late 90's. It's not as if there was peace 2 years after refugees left Cambodia.

I do agree with you about Khmer refugees in the U.S. I do think one needs to take into account the role of post traumatic stress syndrome amongst refugees in the U.S. This often can be unconciously passed from generation to generation. People who have suffered severe PTSD have a hard time planning, are often disorganized, and always on alert for threats. There nervous system is operating in a different way and it makes them more prone to domestic violence, substance abuse etc. Children coming from traumatic backgrounds often have a hard time focusing on schoolwork as their nervous system is always looking for potential threats. One can even see this in the changes in Long Beach since the 80's. The negative effects of PTSD will lessen with each generation.

[gaykhmerguy]

It's just welfare! Countries become better when the people within the country help build it. Not by throwing money at them.

Look at Khmer temples for example. Khmer people donate like crazy to the temples and build temples like crazy. Yet Khmers are so ignorant of Buddhism and know so little. You look at the US Education system where money is spent like crazy, but kids are still stupid.

The biggest export out of the Phillipines is the mail order bride business. The women are sending money back. Money is good..but all of this is just not healthy. I believe Philippines will be better though because the are taking in call centers now and following India's lead. That's working from within.

[tuksuhew]

Khmers in North America are done.

Many Khmer men are either incarcerated, in gangs, dead or have labor jobs making low wages. They won't make any significant impact for Cambodia or the country they're living in (America). Which is understandable because of the war and the mass killings of intellectuals during the Khmer rouge era. You can't expect them to become doctors, lawyers and scientist over night. These things take generations.

Also, because they live in a multi cultural society with different races from all over the world, many khmer kid's will end up in interracial relationships. Thus three to four generations down the road, there won't be any talk of Cambodian Americans in North America.

The only future Cambodians will have 300+ years down the road is in Cambodia.

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Khemrs in Canada are apparently less angry...

[troiscouleurs]

Based on your blogs, you are representative of the "......" Khmers.....in north america.....

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[Jayavarman]

If you are born in the USA you are NOT Khmer. You are AMERICAN...

[LaoGuy]

No matter where you're born. If your parents are 100% Khmer than you're Khmer. If your parents married with different race, you are still part Khmer. When your kids have kids, they are still part Khmer. When their kids have kids, they are still part Khmer. It is like a born Buddhist, you can be anywhere, don't even go to temple, but if your heart and mind are Buddhist, than you are Buddhist for life. You simply can not be remove from your bloodline.

Did I miss anything?

[sSilentxstarzZ]

We can't help where we're born but I'm damn glad my parents made it out of Cambodia when they did. They encouraged me to try hard in school, and to take advantage of opportunities they never had. So the idiots(the north american khmer bashers) can just speak for themselves because they don't know shiet about us good ones. You think putting down your own people will make you any better than the ones you put down? You're just as disloyal as you're claiming them to be because you're not trying to help.

Maybe you should seek lessons from Azi on how to be an outstanding Khmer. She doesn't put others down to make herself feel better. She actually HELPS fellow Khmers try to better themselves.

[llcoolrich]

I think the OP/GayKhmerguy just wanted to trigger a reaction.

Anyways, im sure most khmers at the time all wanted to get out of the country if they were given the opportunity.

You're an idiot if u would stay during the Khmer Rouge. Today, we are a product of our environment. Obviously, Khmer Americans will be more, dare I say it, American. And you know what, most countries in the world don't like Americans. I'm not surprised.

Its ok GayKhmerguy, your just going through some culture shock.

[gaykhmerguy]

What does that say about your perception of Khmers that most want to get out of the country? You say it's idiotic to stay during the Khmer Rouge, but for Americans, you're patriotic if you stay and fight!! Americans are willing to die for their country, but Khmers rather live in another country than die?

It's just common sense that for a country to prosper, people from within have to fight and develop the country. If you honestly believe that a country will be better by the help of those that migrate...good f*cking luck!


I think the OP/GayKhmerguy just wanted to trigger a reaction.

Anyways, im sure most khmers at the time all wanted to get out of the country if they were given the opportunity.

You're an idiot if u would stay during the Khmer Rouge. Today, we are a product of our environment. Obviously, Khmer Americans will be more, dare I say it, American. And you know what, most countries in the world don't like Americans. I'm not surprised.

Its ok GayKhmerguy, your just going through some culture shock.

[gaykhmerguy]

Blood is everywhere. You can trace Khmer blood to China, or to Africa. At the end of the day, what will dictate you now and the future is where you are and what you do. Most Khmers who stay in America will eventually mix with non-Khmers. When you have a kid that is mixed with something else, they care less about their heritage. Most Americans who been here for generations have little or nothing to do with their European ancestors. So if you really believe that Khmer Americans are going to lift up Cambodia...good f*cking luck!


No matter where you're born. If your parents are 100% Khmer than you're Khmer. If your parents married with different race, you are still part Khmer. When your kids have kids, they are still part Khmer. When their kids have kids, they are still part Khmer. It is like a born Buddhist, you can be anywhere, don't even go to temple, but if your heart and mind are Buddhist, than you are Buddhist for life. You simply can not be remove from your bloodline.

Did I miss anything?

[gaykhmerguy]

Too add, in order for Khmers to be really successful, they have to mix in with American society. If you meet an educated Khmer person, chances are, their partner is not Khmer. In order to prosper in a foreign country, you have to be around non-Khmers. When they prosper and have families here, usually they won't really help out Cambodia because at the end of the day, they are Americans.

So anybody who really believes that Khmer Americans that become engineers, doctors, and scientists will go to Cambodia...good f*cking luck! The only way to get alot of Khmers to move back is deportation!!!!


Khmers in North America are done.

Many Khmer men are either incarcerated, in gangs, dead or have labor jobs making low wages. They won't make any significant impact for Cambodia or the country they're living in (America). Which is understandable because of the war and the mass killings of intellectuals during the Khmer rouge era. You can't expect them to become doctors, lawyers and scientist over night. These things take generations.

Also, because they live in a multi cultural society with different races from all over the world, many khmer kid's will end up in interracial relationships. Thus three to four generations down the road, there won't be any talk of Cambodian Americans in North America.

The only future Cambodians will have 300+ years down the road is in Cambodia.

[manguy44]

I think the OP/GayKhmerguy just wanted to trigger a reaction.


you're right thats why i deleted my post. where i'm from, khmers are middle class and we're living the american dream with nice homes,2 cars, 2 children and a dog.....these are khmer-americans of course and not our parents generation who usually came from big families with 10 siblings.

as far as gangs, it really doesnt exist in my community and its usually blacks and mexicans

[manguy44]

the poorest khmers in long beach/lowell live like these people? we've only been living in north america for 30 years or so and came as poor war refugees and i know our poverty isnt this extreme. sure khmer communities deal with gang violence etc but dont compare it with inner city black-american poverty who's also struggling with gang violence...and on top of that add drug abuse,high STD rates,highest incarceration rates and 60% of all black kids come from single parent homes

these are some of the poorest people in america
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hc45fmQP54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9wyOJ4di0g&feature=related

[llcoolrich]

What does that say about your perception of Khmers that most want to get out of the country? You say it's idiotic to stay during the Khmer Rouge, but for Americans, you're patriotic if you stay and fight!! Americans are willing to die for their country, but Khmers rather live in another country than die?

It's just common sense that for a country to prosper, people from within have to fight and develop the country. If you honestly believe that a country will be better by the help of those that migrate...good f*cking luck!

Yeah ok, lets see you fight with a farming hoe in your hands while you got 5 rifles pointed at you.

Your such an idiot. And wrong side buddy. According to your theory, you woulda been one of the soldiers participating in one of the largest genocide the world's ever seen.

How old are you again? You just lost all credibility with what you just said.

[gaykhmerguy]

So only the farmers are good?? For some reason, all the bad guys got weapons??? LOL! Look around the world. There are plenty of countries that do well. Did the good guys ended up with weapons for some reason?

According to my theory, I would be participating in genocide? So the only way you can fight for your country is to commit genocide? You're not making sense!

Again, you said that you're sure most Khmers would leave Cambodia if they could. Does that sound like a country that can sustain itself?? In America, they would say that most Americans would die for their country. Not only that, they are willing to die and fight in and for other countries.

You don't hold credibility when you say you're sure that most Khmers would leave Cambodia if they could.


Yeah ok, lets see you fight with a farming hoe in your hands while you got 5 rifles pointed at you.

Your such an idiot. And wrong side buddy. According to your theory, you woulda been one of the soldiers participating in one of the largest genocide the world's ever seen.

How old are you again? You just lost all credibility with what you just said.

[gaykhmerguy]

During the mid 1900s, most blacks had jobs and most were living with both parents. What happened? Manufacturing jobs got outsourced! The same thing will eventually happen to Khmers. That's a promise! The only way to go against this is to get involved with Asia and/or pursue higher education. Two of which is not really happening that much. The other thing is that the government is in deep debt and eventually, the welfare will stop. Welfare is the lifeblood or contribute to much of Khmer incomes right now. Take that away and it's chaos.


the poorest khmers in long beach/lowell live like these people? we've only been living in north america for 30 years or so and came as poor war refugees and i know our poverty isnt this extreme. sure khmer communities deal with gang violence etc but dont compare it with inner city black-american poverty who's also struggling with gang violence...and on top of that add drug abuse,high STD rates,highest incarceration rates and 60% of all black kids come from single parent homes

these are some of the poorest people in america
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hc45fmQP54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9wyOJ4di0g&feature=related

[manguy44]

During the mid 1900s, most blacks had jobs and most were living with both parents. What happened? Manufacturing jobs got outsourced! The same thing will eventually happen to Khmers. That's a promise! The only way to go against this is to get involved with Asia and/or pursue higher education. Two of which is not really happening that much. The other thing is that the government is in deep debt and eventually, the welfare will stop. Welfare is the lifeblood or contribute to much of Khmer incomes right now. Take that away and it's chaos.

yes only the khmers will be effected by this. you're a homosexual and i understand why you're so angry. mainstream society are not accepting of queers, especially gay dudes....an attractive lesbian is acceptable but not faggot dudes, whether they're a feminine or masculine looking fag.

your family probably disowned you and other khmers probably made jokes about your feminine looks and mannerisms. ok its not just khmers so dont take it out on us, faggots are not acccepted by most other races and ethnicties. unlike racism, homophobia is tolerated,everyone laughs at gay jokes and hollywood likes to poke fun at faggots

[n1985]

Where were the jobs outsourced to in the 1950s after the World War 2 has ended and not to mention the coming Vietnam and Cold wars. Lol anyway, so because most jobs got outsourced therefore it was reason why most black became thugs, and by your logic Cambodia will follow this trend. Do elaborate, I am interested.

[gaykhmerguy]

I have no problems with you being antigay and hateful...cuz you look stupid by being so.

Now what really bothers me is what did I say that bothered you? Why do you ignore the fact that the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs hurt black families? The way America is going, it will eventually hit Khmer America and make the 80s and early 90s look like heaven. or does that not matter and you hate me cuz i'm gay?

Stupid.


yes only the khmers will be effected by this. you're a homosexual, i understand why you're so angry. everyone hates faggots

your family probably disowned you and other khmers probably made jokes about your feminine looks and mannerisms. ok its not just khmers, faggots are not acccepted by most other races and ethnicties. everybody makes fun of faggots, this is reality.

[manguy44]

I have no problems with you being antigay and hateful...cuz you look stupid by being so.

Now what really bothers me is what did I say that bothered you? Why do you ignore the fact that the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs hurt black families? The way America is going, it will eventually hit Khmer America and make the 80s and early 90s look like heaven. or does that not matter and you hate me cuz i'm gay?

Stupid.

lets wait and see, fag boy. just because you have a manufacturing job and live in the ghetto ,please dont assume every other single khmer is like you.

you may not want to admit it but a lot of your anger stems from the fact you're a homosexual....you hate your life.....you hate your family.....you wish you were straight and you hate khmers because your own family disowned you for being a fruitcake

[gaykhmerguy]

My mistake. Due to global competition, manufacturing companies shut down. Before that, the vast majority of blacks had jobs, low crime rates, and most were raised by both parents. Companies started shutting down and black American became what it is. I'm not saying it should be an excuse and blacks are free of blame. All I'm saying is that it's a result. When people lose jobs, crime rises and families break apart. It's simple as that.

Right now, companies are closing down left and right and are being outsourced. Most Khmer work in manufacturing and eventually, many or most will lose their jobs. Many Many simply are living off the system or getting much of their income from the system. The government is in debt crisis right now. What happens when the welfare checks stop flowing? Most Khmer Americans are pursing higher education and making themselves competitive. What happens from there?


Where were the jobs outsourced to in the 1950s after the World War 2 has ended and not to mention the coming Vietnam and Cold wars. Lol anyway, so because most jobs got outsourced therefore it was reason why most black became thugs, and by your logic Cambodia will follow this trend. Do elaborate, I am interested.

[gaykhmerguy]

Even if I was angry as a result of my sexual orientation, it doesn't change the fact. Cambodia is one of the poorest and unhappiest country in the world...not my opinion...a fact! Cambodians came to America and most lived in poverty...a fact! Most Cambodians are uneducated and most Cambodian Americans do not pursue higher education...a fact! Most Cambodians work low wage jobs at manufacturing plants or similar low wage jobs...a fact! All facts!

Now, with all these facts, how the hell can you convince somebody that we will make Cambodia better or that we can coming economic storm??

If you disagree, I welcome you to provide me with opposing information. Last time I check, we didn't come here for a vacation!


lets wait and see, fag boy. just because you have a manufacturing job and live in the ghetto ,please dont assume every other single khmer is like you.

you may not want to admit it but a lot of your anger stems from the fact you're a homosexual....you hate your life.....you hate your family.....you wish you were straight and you hate khmers because your own family disowned you for being a fruitcake

[manguy44]

Even if I was angry as a result of my sexual orientation, it doesn't change the fact. Cambodia is one of the poorest and unhappiest country in the world...not my opinion...a fact! Cambodians came to America and most lived in poverty...a fact! Most Cambodians are uneducated and most Cambodian Americans do not pursue higher education...a fact! Most Cambodians work low wage jobs at manufacturing plants or similar low wage jobs...a fact! All facts!

Now, with all these facts, how the hell can you convince somebody that we will make Cambodia better or that we can coming economic storm??

If you disagree, I welcome you to provide me with opposing information. Last time I check, we didn't come here for a vacation!

gay boy is angry AGAIN:D what are you and all your gay khmer buddies doing to make things better, for khmers in america and cambodia?

[n1985]

My mistake. Due to global competition, manufacturing companies shut down. Before that, the vast majority of blacks had jobs, low crime rates, and most were raised by both parents. Companies started shutting down and black American became what it is. I'm not saying it should be an excuse and blacks are free of blame. All I'm saying is that it's a result. When people lose jobs, crime rises and families break apart. It's simple as that.


Agreed. But the one many problems with American consumerism is that they tend to spend on what got now with less consideration on the uncertainty down the road, iphones and pads for instance. So I dont think this is about race nor the government should take the entire blame. 2ndly when consumers long cheap and affordable goods yet well known brands rivalry between competitors is inevitable for obvious reasons, a: profit maximisation and b: in order to stay in business.



Right now, companies are closing down left and right and are being outsourced. Most Khmer work in manufacturing and eventually, many or most will lose their jobs. Many Many simply are living off the system or getting much of their income from the system. The government is in debt crisis right now. What happens when the welfare checks stop flowing? Most Khmer Americans are pursing higher education and making themselves competitive. What happens from there?

When things affect people's livelihood it is natural to concerned. There is a similarity between unethical and immoral conducts, in this case it is up to the government to sort it out because after all their job is to govern, and being a citizen you have every right to speak up if it affected you as reason for their existence and income source come from your taxes.

[tuksuhew]

Bottom line is. Cambodians Americans won't be around in two-three generations down the road. They're going to be washed up, mixed and fully integrated into American society.

I'm already seeing it in my family. My sister is married to a Caucasian guy. My two cousins who are guys, both married a non-khmer (spanish and caucasian girl) and my 12 year old brother has a Mexican girlfriend.

Because of the high amounts of interracial relationships, the unique Cambodian genes will eventually die off. The only American's who will be left are Caucasian Americans, African Americans and Latino Americans because they usually hold on to their traditions and culture.

...and like I said earlier, in the future, the only Cambodians you will hear about will be the ones living in Cambodia. Outside of it, there won't be anymore left.

[tuksuhew]

...then why are you on a Cambodian website? Most people on here want to connect with their ethnicity and embrace their culture.

Some of them want to see their future son/daughter look like them and not some stranger. Through centuries, your ancestors fought a lot of battles, lost of lot of lives and suffered through a lot hardships and pains. They're the reason why you are a live today. Instead of cultivating that spirit, you're choosing to turn your back and say "who cares"? You're going to wipe out all your history and turn your back against them?

America is only 235 years old compared to Cambodia's ancient, long and vast history. If you don't have any pride for that then, I don't know what to say. Enjoy embracing your European/Latino or African culture instead. Sell out.

[llcoolrich]

Because of the high amounts of interracial relationships, the unique Cambodian genes will eventually die off. The only American's who will be left are Caucasian Americans, African Americans and Latino Americans because they usually hold on to their traditions and culture.

...and like I said earlier, in the future, the only Cambodians you will hear about will be the ones living in Cambodia. Outside of it, there won't be anymore left.

They're called Americans for a reason. America is a huge melting pot. Its not affecting JUST Cambodian-Americans. If you honestly look at the African Americans, I don't have my figures but the majority are mixed with something mostly with white or native american but thats a direct result of them being here one of the longest in America. So I disagree with what you say, how only Cambodians will fall to American assimilation. Everybody who comes to America or another country will assimilate. Its not limited to just Cambodians or Asians. Asians are relatively the newest to immigrate to America, so naturally it seems we are the most affected.

Even then, if you want to go back to the motherland. What is Cambodia? Honestly, most Khmers are mixed with the Chinese and Cambodian culture is heavily influenced by Chinese teachings, philosophy, cuisine, etc. Its just a continuing cycle into America.

[troiscouleurs]

WOW you must really live in a bubble. I don't know the exact #s but educated Khmers do go back and help out the Motherland. And who says the deportees aren't doing any good for the country? Some do continue with their gangbanging ways - but some do work for NGOS etc...

....And in order to keep the Khmer genes alive, you need to be able to reproduce, which means (for you) you need to impregnate a girl. I guess, you're not helping the cause you seem to be ranting about on this forum.


Too add, in order for Khmers to be really successful, they have to mix in with American society. If you meet an educated Khmer person, chances are, their partner is not Khmer. In order to prosper in a foreign country, you have to be around non-Khmers. When they prosper and have families here, usually they won't really help out Cambodia because at the end of the day, they are Americans.

So anybody who really believes that Khmer Americans that become engineers, doctors, and scientists will go to Cambodia...good f*cking luck! The only way to get alot of Khmers to move back is deportation!!!!

[gaykhmerguy]

1) I said that in order for a country to prosper, the country has to be built from within. The most help Khmers abroad will do is just welfare! You cannot just give people money as that promotes people to be lazy and not work hard. That's why prostitution is so widespread in Cambodia. When you're not working hard and you get handouts, you do stupid things like visit prostitutes.

2) I never said deportees can't do good for their country. I said that's the only way to get a huge portion of Khmers to go back to Cambodia to live...by deporting them.

3) In order for the Khmer gene to stay alive, you have to be in Cambodia and in constant contact with it. If you live abroad, you're probably never going back to Asia. At least in the time being, only deportees are doing that. Khmers can have all the kids they want in America but eventually, most will mix with other races. That's just the reality of immigration.

Good luck on forcing your kids 10 generations down the road to stay Khmer!


WOW you must really live in a bubble. I don't know the exact #s but educated Khmers do go back and help out the Motherland. And who says the deportees aren't doing any good for the country? Some do continue with their gangbanging ways - but some do work for NGOS etc...

....And in order to keep the Khmer genes alive, you need to be able to reproduce, which means (for you) you need to impregnate a girl. I guess, you're not helping the cause you seem to be ranting about on this forum.

[gaykhmerguy]

I agree with tuksuhew..but not for the same reasons. It's just a fact that the Black, Latino, and White population is so huge that it just will never cease to exist. Khmers are an extremely small population in the US and it will be difficult to stick to Khmers if you expect to make something of yourself.

Cambodians mixing with Chinese is a reflection of the lack of pride many Khmers have. There's a reason why Thai people slap their name on every single product, while Khmers rarely do. The word Khmer unfortunately has become synonymous with bad quality. Tell a Khmer girl she looks Khmer...and she gives you an ugly or neutral look. Tell her she looks Vietnamese, Chinese,...and heck, kick it up a notch and say Japanese and her face will light up.


They're called Americans for a reason. America is a huge melting pot. Its not affecting JUST Cambodian-Americans. If you honestly look at the African Americans, I don't have my figures but the majority are mixed with something mostly with white or native american but thats a direct result of them being here one of the longest in America. So I disagree with what you say, how only Cambodians will fall to American assimilation. Everybody who comes to America or another country will assimilate. Its not limited to just Cambodians or Asians. Asians are relatively the newest to immigrate to America, so naturally it seems we are the most affected.

Even then, if you want to go back to the motherland. What is Cambodia? Honestly, most Khmers are mixed with the Chinese and Cambodian culture is heavily influenced by Chinese teachings, philosophy, cuisine, etc. Its just a continuing cycle into America.

[tuksuhew]

There's so many more Caucasians and Blacks in this country that it doesn't even matter if they're mixing. It won't affect their gene pool because it's in such low numbers. They'll continue to exist centuries onto the future.

Caucasians make up close to 60% of America, while blacks make up close to 15% according to the last US concensus on race. Out of the 60% of Caucasian Americans who marry, only 3-5 % marry outside their race. Same with Blacks.

However, with Cambodian Americans, they make up less than 1% of the US population. If Cambodians are interbreeding with other races, within 1-2 generations, they will all be mixed. To me that's silent genocide. Whether you agree with me or not. It's the truth and reality of the Khmer American situation. They won't exist.

Now with all those mix kids produced by intermarriage, I'd say 98% of them will find a non-khmer wife/husband so eventually, what you'll see is khmer's being outbreeded.

Blacks will continue to live on, Caucasians will live on and Latinos will live on. You can't say the same with Cambodian Americans.

[n1985]

Let me get this right. Your ultimate concerned is the potential extinction of Khmer-American. This is the most bizarre thing I've read this week, thanks Tuk!

[manguy44]

I agree with tuksuhew..but not for the same reasons. It's just a fact that the Black, Latino, and White population is so huge that it just will never cease to exist. Khmers are an extremely small population in the US and it will be difficult to stick to Khmers if you expect to make something of yourself.

Cambodians mixing with Chinese is a reflection of the lack of pride many Khmers have. There's a reason why Thai people slap their name on every single product, while Khmers rarely do. The word Khmer unfortunately has become synonymous with bad quality. Tell a Khmer girl she looks Khmer...and she gives you an ugly or neutral look. Tell her she looks Vietnamese, Chinese,...and heck, kick it up a notch and say Japanese and her face will light up.

there is no "mixing" with chinese in the states you gay boy or even cambodia. i happen to be ethnic teochew chinese descent on both sides and my family and i consider ourselves khmer. what is this "mixing" you speak of, do you honestly think every ethnic chinese in southeast asia are mixed with with the local SEA population?....what difference does it make, we're all mongoloids and you probably cant even distinguish ethnic chinese people in cambodia.

stop trying to divide people because all my relatives back in cambodia do not live in segregated communities or speak teochew when they're out in public. they live their lives as khmers you faggot bitch. i do not see myself as better than "pure" khmers or whatever that suppose to mean because we view ourselves as khmers, its our homeland(not china) you homo......stop talking out of your ass and assume you know everything, i bet your homo ass has never even been to cambodia.

[loplop]

There's so many more Caucasians and Blacks in this country that it doesn't even matter if they're mixing. It won't affect their gene pool because it's in such low numbers. They'll continue to exist centuries onto the future.

Caucasians make up close to 60% of America, while blacks make up close to 15% according to the last US concensus on race. Out of the 60% of Caucasian Americans who marry, only 3-5 % marry outside their race. Same with Blacks.

However, with Cambodian Americans, they make up less than 1% of the US population. If Cambodians are interbreeding with other races, within 1-2 generations, they will all be mixed. To me that's silent genocide. Whether you agree with me or not. It's the truth and reality of the Khmer American situation. They won't exist.

Now with all those mix kids produced by intermarriage, I'd say 98% of them will find a non-khmer wife/husband so eventually, what you'll see is khmer's being outbreeded.

Blacks will continue to live on, Caucasians will live on and Latinos will live on. You can't say the same with Cambodian Americans.

Wait till you see the number of white folks having kids with Khmer nowadays in Cambodia. I see a dozen mixed kids on an average day in Siem Reap in Phnom Penh and with 50,000 Barang living in Phnom Penh nowadays it will only increase. In Thailand many famous Thai singers and movie stars are Half Thai/Barang. Many of these mixed kids will soon be the elite in Cambodia with their education at International schools and perfect Khmer and English accents. Nowadays I overhear so many Khmer girls saying they want to have a Barang baby when they see the mixed kids because they don't want their kids to grow up "dark and ugly."

[manguy44]

your homo ass act as if chinese is so superior and shit, whats the deal man, do u wanna get buttfucked by a chinese dude or something?

i happen to be one of those "mixed" chinese or "superior" people of cambodia that you think so highly of. we live in america and we practice both cultures but khmer is more dominant ok? we dont give a shit about china and my parents are mainly concerned with khmers and cambodia....oh yeah, did i forget to mention we consider ourselves khmers?

[llcoolrich]

This thread is quickly becoming hysterical.

You and your khmer extinction ideas. You ever heard of Hitler and white supremacy? You guys are no different telling people the end of khmers are coming and we should keep ourselves pure. Its a part of society. Next thing I'm going to hear is Phnom Penh Khmers and Battambang khmers shouldn't mix. It will kill the territories.

I'm done posting on this topic. Don't feed the trolls anymore guys.

[tuksuhew]

I don't think it's a matter of being racist, it's just a reality that Cambodian Americans face. Just like American Indians realize today. There aren't many of them left due to genocide and intermarriage.

I've dated non-khmers and I'll probably marry a non-khmer as a wife. I realize that I'm going to assimilate into American culture and my future kids will also be assimilated. Eventually we'll become so mixed we won't be considered Cambodian anymore. We'll have no connection with the Cambodian heritage and our loyalty will be with America.

[n1985]

Tuk post a picture of yourself and show the audience how handsome you are. Who knows, your handsomeness could arouse some of the chicks on here and getting a chance to feel the sensation of sex, and could do you good by putting your skepticism at peace.

[Boross_IT]

I swear gaykhmerguy sounds like Big_Machine. KCers know who I'm talking about.

[gaykhmerguy]

There is no mixing of Chinese with Khmers in Cambodia?? You failed the debate right there! Yet you said all your relatives do not live in segregrated communities? Why are you arguing with yourself?

I don't know everything, but I know that much of Cambodian society is mixed with Chinese, and I know that Khmers, just like everybody else in America will mix. You talk to your typical White person in America and it's English, German, Jew, Italian, Irish, South American, etc. Why would it be any different with Khmers? Much of Cambodian society couldn't prevent mixing with Chinese...so no reason to believe we won't mix with other races in America.




there is no "mixing" with chinese in the states you gay boy or even cambodia. i happen to be ethnic teochew chinese descent on both sides and my family and i consider ourselves khmer. what is this "mixing" you speak of, do you honestly think every ethnic chinese in southeast asia are mixed with with the local SEA population?....what difference does it make, we're all mongoloids and you probably cant even distinguish ethnic chinese people in cambodia.

stop trying to divide people because all my relatives back in cambodia do not live in segregated communities or speak teochew when they're out in public. they live their lives as khmers you faggot bitch. i do not see myself as better than "pure" khmers or whatever that suppose to mean because we view ourselves as khmers, its our homeland(not china) you homo......stop talking out of your ass and assume you know everything, i bet your homo ass has never even been to cambodia.

[gaykhmerguy]

I don't understand why anybody has a problem with what we're saying? It's true!


I don't think it's a matter of being racist, it's just a reality that Cambodian Americans face. Just like American Indians realize today. There aren't many of them left due to genocide and intermarriage.

I've dated non-khmers and I'll probably marry a non-khmer as a wife. I realize that I'm going to assimilate into American culture and my future kids will also be assimilated. Eventually we'll become so mixed we won't be considered Cambodian anymore. We'll have no connection with the Cambodian heritage and our loyalty will be with America.

[gaykhmerguy]

I don't think Me and tuksuhew saying that nobody should mix. We're only saying that people do mix. People acting surprised that we live in a non-Khmer society and that Khmers would marry other races.


This thread is quickly becoming hysterical.

You and your khmer extinction ideas. You ever heard of Hitler and white supremacy? You guys are no different telling people the end of khmers are coming and we should keep ourselves pure. Its a part of society. Next thing I'm going to hear is Phnom Penh Khmers and Battambang khmers shouldn't mix. It will kill the territories.

I'm done posting on this topic. Don't feed the trolls anymore guys.

[manguy44]

There is no mixing of Chinese with Khmers in Cambodia?? You failed the debate right there! Yet you said all your relatives do not live in segregrated communities? Why are you arguing with yourself?

I don't know everything, but I know that much of Cambodian society is mixed with Chinese, and I know that Khmers, just like everybody else in America will mix. You talk to your typical White person in America and it's English, German, Jew, Italian, Irish, South American, etc. Why would it be any different with Khmers? Much of Cambodian society couldn't prevent mixing with Chinese...so no reason to believe we won't mix with other races in America.

homo, why do you sound so much like tuksuhew? are you also him and i know tuksuhew has been accused of being a homosexual in the past.

why use a pornstar as an avatar pic? he's obviously attracted to the guy or do we actually have two homosexual members on KL? i notice you two are really active on this site......hmmmm makes me wonder

[gaykhmerguy]

Me and tuksuhew, we see things as is and speak the truth. Do I agree with everything he say? Nope! Some of what he say is straight up wrong. However, he speaks along much of the truth and reality.

Me and tuksuhew have a similar goal here..to speak about what's going on in the world and hope people listen. Unfortunately, what we're doing is like making a speech at a PTA meeting to Khmer parents (in case you don't get what I'm saying..most Khmers don't go to PTA meetings). Still, we say it anyways.

You can say whatever about the guy, but he's one of the smartest Khmer person I'd ever came upon. If you think he's an idiot..then what I can tell you is that an idiot is what Khmer people has to offer!

So far, I have not heart any anti-gay slurs from tuksuhew...and some of you guys think you're better by throwing gay slurs at me? That alone shows me that i'm better..and he's better.

You can hate on this fag, but this fag got a degree! LOL.


homo, why do you sound so much like tuksuhew? are you also him and i know tuksuhew has been accused of being a homosexual in the past.

why use a pornstar as an avatar pic? he's obviously attracted to the guy or do we actually have two homosexual members on KL? i notice you two are really active on this site......hmmmm makes me wonder

[manguy44]

Me and tuksuhew, we see things as is and speak the truth. Do I agree with everything he say? Nope! Some of what he say is straight up wrong. However, he speaks along much of the truth and reality.

Me and tuksuhew have a similar goal here..to speak about what's going on in the world and hope people listen. Unfortunately, what we're doing is like making a speech at a PTA meeting to Khmer parents (in case you don't get what I'm saying..most Khmers don't go to PTA meetings). Still, we say it anyways.

You can say whatever about the guy, but he's one of the smartest Khmer person I'd ever came upon. If you think he's an idiot..then what I can tell you is that an idiot is what Khmer people has to offer!

So far, I have not heart any anti-gay slurs from tuksuhew...and some of you guys think you're better by throwing gay slurs at me? That alone shows me that i'm better..and he's better.

You can hate on this fag, but this fag got a degree! LOL.

you have a degree and a good career then why do you have so much free time on your hands? LOL it seems like you're on Kl 24/7 fag boy....

[manguy44]

you're reaching 500 posts in just 2 months, fag boy....LOL

[gaykhmerguy]

When you have a degree, you get to work at an office job with a computer all day...:) and if you're lucky, you get to have multiple monitors...:).


you have a degree and a good career then why do you have so much free time on your hands? LOL it seems like you're on Kl 24/7 fag boy....

[manguy44]

When you have a degree, you get to work at an office job with a computer all day...:) and if you're lucky, you get to have multiple monitors...:).

it get it now, all work and no play? what about your social life, any boyfriends?

sexually frustrated and not enough butt fuck buddies in your life?

[tuksuhew]

I blame everything on multiculturalism. It's because of multiculturalism, Cambodians are divided and aren't unified. The Chinese/Cambodians have their own agendas and the ethnic Cambodians have another. Same thing with Vietnamese/Cambodians and any other half breed Cambodians. They don't see eye to eye on a lot of issues and their values are different.

It's because of this, Cambodians have suffered and will continue to suffer onto the future. You see it today in Cambodia. The majority of Cambodians live in poverty while the Chinese and Vietnamese control most of the wealth. Most of the businesses are run and owned not by Cambodians, but by the Chinese and Vietnamese instead.

A lot of times, with all the wealth they make, they take it back to their own countries. So rather than stimulating the Cambodian economy, they help out theirs instead. Thus making Cambodia poorer and poorer, while they get richer and richer.

If Cambodians want to be successful, a proud and a glorious nation again, they have to take back their country.

The only solution to this problem is racial cleansing. I know I sound like Pol Pot and Hitler but to fix the problem, I don't see any other way.

I'm not advocating violence, genocide or mass killings. I'd rather avoid that. Instead, I think all Chinese, Vietnamese, Thais or any other ethnic group, leave the country, either by deportation or leaving voluntarily. They can't live side by side. There's always going to be one group who dominates the other and there's always going to be social, political and economic inequality.

Once Cambodians take control of their own country, they can start from scratch and slowly build it back up.

http://www.asean-cn.org/UploadFiles/News/2011/3/201103091730566562.jpg

Unfortunately, with this guy still in power, Cambodians won't see much change for awhile.

[tuksuhew]

I'm not following the same ideology or mindset Pol Pot had. If you read my comment, I said I'm not advocating murders and genocide. I don't wish people harm. The Vietnamese have their own country and so do the Chinese and Thais. Let the Cambodians have their own country and leave them a lone. Don't exploit them and create slaves out of their people.

[manguy44]

I'm not following the same ideology or mindset Pol Pot had. If you read my comment, I said I'm not advocating murders and genocide. I don't wish people harm. The Vietnam have their own country and so do the Chinese and Thais. Let the Cambodians have their own country and leave them a lone. Don't exploit them and create slaves out of their people.

mr khmer nationalist, you are so proud yet you use a thai-english pornographic actor as your avatar? are you sexually attracted to him and are you trying to promote thai men on this website?

[n1985]

Me and tuksuhew, we see things as is and speak the truth. Do I agree with everything he say? Nope! Some of what he say is straight up wrong. However, he speaks along much of the truth and reality.

Me and tuksuhew have a similar goal here..to speak about what's going on in the world and hope people listen. Unfortunately, what we're doing is like making a speech at a PTA meeting to Khmer parents (in case you don't get what I'm saying..most Khmers don't go to PTA meetings). Still, we say it anyways.

You can say whatever about the guy, but he's one of the smartest Khmer person I'd ever came upon. If you think he's an idiot..then what I can tell you is that an idiot is what Khmer people has to offer!

So far, I have not heart any anti-gay slurs from tuksuhew...and some of you guys think you're better by throwing gay slurs at me? That alone shows me that i'm better..and he's better.

You can hate on this fag, but this fag got a degree! LOL.

Fuck you guys are funny. You are claiming to speak the truth when more often than not you are spewing nonsense with the mediocre brain of yours. Do you usually pause and think before hitting away on your rusted keyboard?

I am overwhelmed see you people like you taking on the role to the inform the cyberworld on current events and your worldly view. Just it's unfortunate that it often comes off like a naive 13 years old virgin who about to have her 1st period.

Tuksuhew is probably in awe right now receiving such a heart felt compliment from his trolling partner. Where did you get your degree from? Was it happened to be from the road side on Khao San road in Bangkok?

[Boross_IT]

I'm not following the same ideology or mindset Pol Pot had. If you read my comment, I said I'm not advocating murders and genocide. I don't wish people harm. The Vietnamese have their own country and so do the Chinese and Thais. Let the Cambodians have their own country and leave them a lone. Don't exploit them and create slaves out of their people.

Sure you're not advocating murders and genocide, but you're thinking will only promote violence and death as a means of measuring up to your idealistic viewpoint. I don't think the communist advocated killing in their game plan either, but ideals are usually far from reality, and what seems like a simple ideas turns into disaster in reality. You're not so far from the line of thinking of Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, and other mass murderers of the 20th century.

[tuksuhew]

Borross, then what are your suggestions in fixing Cambodians social and economic problems?

[Boross_IT]

Borross, then what are your suggestions in fixing Cambodians social and economic problems?

Does it really matter what I think, when you deleted my comments in your blog posts when I stated that China is made up of at least 56 ethnic groups, of which the Han Chinese are the largest ethnic group? If you think multiculturalism is the problem, and you boast of China's unity, then why are they faring so well with over 56 ethnic groups living under one unified state?

[tuksuhew]

answer my question first.

[Boross_IT]

answer my question first.
I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who handles facts by deleting them because they disprove his point.

[loplop]

I don't think the communist advocated killing in their game plan either, but ideals are usually far from reality, and what seems like a simple ideas turns into disaster in reality.

Say WHAT!!?? You don't think the communist advocated killing in their game plan!???????? Did I hear you correctly?

Let's read a few quotes from Chairman Mao's little Red Book.

A REVOLUTION IS NOT A DINNER PARTY OR WRITING AN ESSAY OR PAINTING A PICTURE OR DOING EMBROIDERY; IT CANNOT BE SO REFINED. SO LESIURELY AND GENTLE SO TEMPERATE KIND AND COURTEOUS RESTRAINED AND MAGNANIMOUS. A REVOLUTION IS A CLASS WAR, AND ACT OF VIOLENCE BY WHICH ONE CLASS OVERTHROWS ANOTHER.

MILLIONS OF PEASANTS WILL RISE LIKE A MIGHTY STORM, LIKE A HURRICANE, A FORCE SO SWIFT AND VIOLENT THAT NO POWER, HOWEVER GREAT, WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD IT BACK. THEY WILL SMASH ALL THE TRAMMELS THAT BIND THEM AND RUSH FORWARD ALONG THE ROAD TO LUBERATION. THEY WILL SWEEP ALL THE IMPERIALISTS, WARLORDS, CORRUPT OFFICIALS, LOCAL TYRANTS AND EVIL GENTRY INTO THEIR GRAVES.

[gaykhmerguy]

How are we wrong? You think Khmers will just stick together and thrive in a world that is mostly not Khmer? Go to school and work and mainly deal with non-Khmers..and go home to Khmer husbands and wives? That may be the case if you only think Khmers will stick to factory jobs but if you want to prosper in a non-Khmer world, you will mainly have to deal with them. That's what happen to most Americans where they mix with other groups of people such as German, Jews, Italian, Irish, English, etc.

I don't even have to insult you because i'm right. If you disagree, show us the reason why. Show us reasons why you think Khmer people will only stick to other Khmers as opposed to others that do mix? Why is it that the first Khmer person that got elected to a political/government position is married to a white woman???

To only throw insults and personal attacks is what people who are wrong do...and you're wrong.



Fuck you guys are funny. You are claiming to speak the truth when more often than not you are spewing nonsense with the mediocre brain of yours. Do you usually pause and think before hitting away on your rusted keyboard?

I am overwhelmed see you people like you taking on the role to the inform the cyberworld on current events and your worldly view. Just it's unfortunate that it often comes off like a naive 13 years old virgin who about to have her 1st period.

Tuksuhew is probably in awe right now receiving such a heart felt compliment from his trolling partner. Where did you get your degree from? Was it happened to be from the road side on Khao San road in Bangkok?

[loplop]

I'm not following the same ideology or mindset Pol Pot had. If you read my comment, I said I'm not advocating murders and genocide. I don't wish people harm. The Vietnamese have their own country and so do the Chinese and Thais. Let the Cambodians have their own country and leave them a lone. Don't exploit them and create slaves out of their people.

Cambodians have made far more slaves out of Cambodians than any other race or country has ever considered!!!!

Are you Pol Pot reincarnated or did you take that directly from his 1977 speech? I'll recap for you below again.


"In this same feudal epoch, enemies came from abroad, some foreign feudalists and foreign reactionaries and colonialists came to invade our country. As invaders, they entered into antagonistic contradiction with the Kampuchean nation and people. They invaded, exploited and oppressed the Kampuchean nation and people, particularly the peasant class. At the same time, the Kampuchean nation and people, particularly the peasant class, rose up to drive out the foreign invaders, in order to be freed and to free the country and the people, particularly the peasantry. These movements of struggle appeared everywhere, one after another, taking the form of armed struggle. Some movements met defeat and were crushed. But, in other places, they won.

Even so, their victory was temporary, because those who were the victors did not possess a correct line to really liberate the country and really liberate the people, the exploited masses who comprise the peasant class. Once they won, they thought only of their own interest and the interest of their clique. They made themselves warlords and ruled like kings and viceroys, and they became the new exploiters of the peasant class. When the peasant people turned against them, they sought aid and protection from the foreign feudalists and reactionaries, or from the colonialists, cutting off much of the national territory for them or selling it to them, in order to continue to reign as kings, in kingdoms indebted to foreigners, collaborating with them in the exploitation of the peasantry.

The best lesson is that our people are courageous, moved by fierce patriotism, daring to struggle, daring to sacrifice themselves to fight enemies of the nation, the aggressors and the exploiters who are the class enemies.

We must grasp this special point well. If we do not, we are gravely underestimating our people. If we do not learn from the movement of our people since its beginnings, we cannot avoid thinking that our people do not dare to struggle, do not know how to struggle, that they are lazy, weak, cowardly, and have accomplished nothing. But, in fact, from generation to generation, our people have always struggled, have always shed their blood. They dare to wage armed struggle, which is the highest form of struggle; they even struggle bare-handed. Our people have struggled, they still struggle, they will struggle forever.
Are such people brave, or, are they cowards?
They are truly a brave people, truly worthy, having beautiful traditions of struggle. We must grasp this lesson and emulate it so as to keep our people’s good trait aloft and alive forever. The reality is that the people have struggled, a fact not imagined by some writer. Thus, whether or not we have confidence in the masses depends on the examination that we make of our people’s movement. Our people have dared to fight foreign invaders in every era. They dared to struggle against the French invaders, they dared to struggle against the Japanese invaders and the American invaders, they have always dared to struggle.

Now, we must have a line, but what line? A line copied from others will not work. We must have a line coming from a position of independence and initiative, of deciding our own destiny. Self-reliance means relying principally and fundamentally on our own people, our own Army, our own Party, on the concrete revolutionary movement in our country.
Thus, we must elaborate a correct line to win victory. This is why we drew up the strategic and tactical lines of our national democratic revolution, the question to which I will address myself in the second part of my talk. POL POT

[tuksuhew]

lolop. Let me ask you something. How could you solve Cambodia's problem of turning Cambodia into a slave state and a prisoner of their own country.

How do you solve a small pocket of society (consisting mostly of Chinese, Vietnamese and foreigners) controlling most of the wealth while the masses (95%) are living in poverty.

[KHEN]

last quest. would be a good thread topic!

lolop. Let me ask you something. How could you solve Cambodia's problem of turning Cambodia into a slave state and a prisoner of their own country.

How do you solve a small pocket of society (consisting mostly of Chinese, Vietnamese and foreigners) controlling most of the wealth while the masses (95%) are living in poverty.

[RAZOR_BLADE]

Tell a Khmer girl she looks Khmer...and she gives you an ugly or neutral look. Tell her she looks Vietnamese, Chinese,...and heck, kick it up a notch and say Japanese and her face will light up.

Ladies....is this true? :confused:

[sSilentxstarzZ]

Ladies....is this true? :confused:
I've never been told that I look Khmer, but if that were to happen, I probably would give a neutral look. Why? Because I am Khmer and what else am I supposed to look like? No..scratch that. I'd get excited because I've always wanted to be told that I look Khmer and to not be mistaken for something else.

I'm not racist, but I do NOT like being told that I look Chinese, Korean, and especially Japanese (I feel like I'm being compared to this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Y3WXZgwwRY4/S_lrp-3wHoI/AAAAAAAAAAY/vSUthw-arEc/s1600/YaoYao.jpg and I find that insulting)

[gaykhmerguy]

Well, the reason why you look East Asian is because you're mixed with East Asian...so why would dislike looking what you are? The chances of you being light skin and pure Khmer is impossible...unless you got some skin disease. As for that picture...you just chose a bad looking girl.

Just admit it! Khmer society has an obsession with looking light skin or more East Asian. Men have children with light skin women, female celebrities are mixed with East Asian, or dark skin girls powder themselves to look more light skin.


I've never been told that I look Khmer, but if that were to happen, I probably would give a neutral look. Why? Because I am Khmer and what else am I supposed to look like? No..scratch that. I'd get excited because I've always wanted to be told that I look Khmer and to not be mistaken for something else.

I'm not racist, but I do NOT like being told that I look Chinese, Korean, and especially Japanese (I feel like I'm being compared to this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Y3WXZgwwRY4/S_lrp-3wHoI/AAAAAAAAAAY/vSUthw-arEc/s1600/YaoYao.jpg and I find that insulting)

[Paully]

Does it really matter what I think, when you deleted my comments in your blog posts when I stated that China is made up of at least 56 ethnic groups, of which the Han Chinese are the largest ethnic group? If you think multiculturalism is the problem, and you boast of China's unity, then why are they faring so well with over 56 ethnic groups living under one unified state?

QFT. Back to the drawing board for tuksuhew.

[LaoGuy]

Blood is everywhere. You can trace Khmer blood to China, or to Africa. At the end of the day, what will dictate you now and the future is where you are and what you do. Most Khmers who stay in America will eventually mix with non-Khmers. When you have a kid that is mixed with something else, they care less about their heritage. Most Americans who been here for generations have little or nothing to do with their European ancestors. So if you really believe that Khmer Americans are going to lift up Cambodia...good f*cking luck!


Everything stems from home. If you're the type of parents that teaches your children good values and your traditions than it is most likely they will uphold to their root in one way or another. Keep in mind too that every evolves so yes things do change but proper guidance and well taught children will always remember their root and yes they will lift up Cambodia in their hearts.

[ji-cyclo]

it's not just Khmer Americans that will help lift cambodia but Khmers from other western countries too. you can't spew evrything negative about Khmers and forget the positives. I'm curious gaykhmerguy what your background growing up as a Khmer american was like. can u for a day, see the positives?
I think once the time is ripe, politically and economically u wil see a change from within he Khmer diaspora. But for people like gahkhmer, for every positive story he will post 5 negative stories. makes me wonder how ashamed he is to be Khmer.

[sSilentxstarzZ]

Well, the reason why you look East Asian is because you're mixed with East Asian...so why would dislike looking what you are? The chances of you being light skin and pure Khmer is impossible...unless you got some skin disease. As for that picture...you just chose a bad looking girl.

Just admit it! Khmer society has an obsession with looking light skin or more East Asian. Men have children with light skin women, female celebrities are mixed with East Asian, or dark skin girls powder themselves to look more light skin.
I hope you know that all Khmers have east Asian blood in them if you trace our ancestry back several generations. We're all mixed. It's evolution. So technically, there's no such thing as a 'pure Khmer' but we gotta draw the line somewhere. I am aware that I have some Chinese in my background but as far as I know, my ancestors were born and raised in Cambodia and that's where the line begins for me.

You ask me "why would [you] dislike looking what you are?" So now you're questioning my pride? What do you want me to say? That I'm happier to look east Asian when I consider myself Khmer? so I can help back up your theory that Khmer girls aren't proud of looking Khmer? Ask yourself why you take pleasure in talking trash about our people. Who's the one who dislikes him/herself now?

The girl in the photo I chose is not bad looking. I chose that pic because she's making a stupid "cute" expression and every time someone says I look Korean or Japanese, this is what I mentally picture I'm being compared to. They might not have this image in their minds, but it is in mine.

And it's not just Khmers who prefer light over dark when it comes to beauty. The most popular black celebrities have a caramel complexion. I'd love to have that natural glowing tan.

[gaykhmerguy]

It's not about being negative about Khmers...it's just the truth and common sense. In order for a country, business, organization, family, or anything to prosper, it has to be built from within. If you look at the US, it was built from Americans who stay, not the Americans who ran off to England. At companies, they prosper from internal employees, not from employees that go work for other countries. Family prosper when parents are part of their children's lives..not when daddy goes away. The majority of the time, successful is built from within and those externally majority of the time do little.

Sure, many Khmers do send money back..but again, that's just welfare. It's no different than how the government throw money to people on people in the ghetto who mostly stay in the ghetto and are plague with problems. When you give people money that they don't work for, they do stupid reason. That's one reason why Cambodia have so many problems. Give it to the men and they go to brothels! Look at Afghanistan!

I may say more negative, but life is more negative. Daily life in Cambodia and Khmer Americans is more negative than positive. I want to talk about the high college graduation rate and successful Khmers, but they are the minority. I want to talk about the university grad in Cambodia that get jobs and are really educated.






it's not just Khmer Americans that will help lift cambodia but Khmers from other western countries too. you can't spew evrything negative about Khmers and forget the positives. I'm curious gaykhmerguy what your background growing up as a Khmer american was like. can u for a day, see the positives?
I think once the time is ripe, politically and economically u wil see a change from within he Khmer diaspora. But for people like gahkhmer, for every positive story he will post 5 negative stories. makes me wonder how ashamed he is to be Khmer.

[gaykhmerguy]

Stop confusing yourself!

Where you born has nothing to do with your ethnicity. What you're doing is like me saying that I don't like it when people say I look Asian...I'm American..lol. It doesn't make sense! I never argued about what Khmers look like, but I'm saying that much of Khmer society is mixed with Chinese or other, and look no different than them, so obviously people will think you're Chinese or East Asian.

And you agree that Khmers prefer light skin. Especially the men. Khmer men love light skin girls so much that we pretty much changed the image of what Khmers look like.


I hope you know that all Khmers have east Asian blood in them if you trace our ancestry back several generations. We're all mixed. It's evolution. So technically, there's no such thing as a 'pure Khmer' but we gotta draw the line somewhere. I am aware that I have some Chinese in my background but as far as I know, my ancestors were born and raised in Cambodia and that's where the line begins for me.

You ask me "why would [you] dislike looking what you are?" So now you're questioning my pride? What do you want me to say? That I'm happier to look east Asian when I consider myself Khmer? so I can help back up your theory that Khmer girls aren't proud of looking Khmer? Ask yourself why you take pleasure in talking trash about our people. Who's the one who dislikes him/herself now?

The girl in the photo I chose is not bad looking. I chose that pic because she's making a stupid "cute" expression and every time someone says I look Korean or Japanese, this is what I mentally picture I'm being compared to. They might not have this image in their minds, but it is in mine.

And it's not just Khmers who prefer light over dark when it comes to beauty. The most popular black celebrities have a caramel complexion. I'd love to have that natural glowing tan.

[manguy44]

Stop confusing yourself!

Where you born has nothing to do with your ethnicity. What you're doing is like me saying that I don't like it when people say I look Asian...I'm American..lol. It doesn't make sense! I never argued about what Khmers look like, but I'm saying that much of Khmer society is mixed with Chinese or other, and look no different than them, so obviously people will think you're Chinese or East Asian.

And you agree that Khmers prefer light skin. Especially the men. Khmer men love light skin girls so much that we pretty much changed the image of what Khmers look like.

why do you care, you're not even attracted to women homo guy. what makes u think asians are so diverse looking, do we have diverse hair and eye color like you see in caucasians? i'm gonna say it, asians are not very diverse looking. i'm light skinned but i have relatives with dark skin(specifically male relatives) so what does that tell you? am i no longer related to these people because their skin color is different from mine? the last time i checked, we're all related with the same blood.

if an east asian person DOESN'T share the exact phenotype as this guy, does it mean they're mixed? homo

http://www.williamhung.net/WilliamPic_G.jpg

[manguy44]

u make it sound like khmers are pacific islanders or something...lol some filipinos dont cosider themselves asians but islanders. regardless of skin color,i believe khmers tend to be "chinkier" than filipinos,indonesians and malaysians......

homo guy, there are plenty of light skinned filipinos too but are you trying to tell me all the light ones must be mixed with chinese? stop going by stereotypes you homo. do you personally know these people and you think you got it all figured out, dont u ? seriously u can look at someone and determine if their pure/mixed based on skin tones and facial features?

pure filipino, right? this is the typical filipino look, light skinned ones are usually mixed with chinese or other east asian ethnicity
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfhxUTpwvzY

[gaykhmerguy]

manguy..shut up!

[manguy44]

manguy..shut up!

i'm just going by your theory and showing you the "pure" filipino look. this is what an "unmixed" filipino is SUPPOSE to look like and the ones who dont must be mixed with chinese

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arphX86TWVg

[dfinedbeauty]

People all over the world come to the United States, for a better life, it doesn't exactly mean oh you have to be a lawyer, doctor, or a journalist or you have to be rich and educated in some way. They come here to be free, to enjoy life the way it was meant to be whether it's laying on the beach, or gang banging down the streets "it is, what it is". From what I see the better person is the one who doesn't judge his fellow asians. Just thank your parents, that you're here in America and not buried 6 feet under nowhere.

[kyle]

I wasn't born here but people tell me I wanted to be a white dude cos of my name change lol . when ever they call my name, white people look at me, WTF! damn I need to go change back to ma cambo name..

[KHEN]

u make it look like fixing cambodia is like fixing a leaking sink. the issue is deeper than sending welfare money back home. its a cultural thing. have u been back to cambodia? men have mistresses and women are second class citizens unless yur Bun Rany and that other ho who rapes khmers of their property..fprgot her name..starts with K.

corruption is rampant too. the culture of impunity results in the downward spiral of cambodias social fabric. the money being sent back and money from grants aid arent going no where bc of corruption. expats khmers are sending money back, some are working over there but i agree there arent enough of them to help out. but the same time u cant deny that khmer "anakajun" i think thats the term arent doing anything to help the country. theres ALOT to fix so we are slowly fixing the country.
where do u live. u talk welfare ghetto this that. most khmers i know stopped receiving welfare.


It's not about being negative about Khmers...it's just the truth and common sense. In order for a country, business, organization, family, or anything to prosper, it has to be built from within. If you look at the US, it was built from Americans who stay, not the Americans who ran off to England. At companies, they prosper from internal employees, not from employees that go work for other countries. Family prosper when parents are part of their children's lives..not when daddy goes away. The majority of the time, successful is built from within and those externally majority of the time do little.

Sure, many Khmers do send money back..but again, that's just welfare. It's no different than how the government throw money to people on people in the ghetto who mostly stay in the ghetto and are plague with problems. When you give people money that they don't work for, they do stupid reason. That's one reason why Cambodia have so many problems. Give it to the men and they go to brothels! Look at Afghanistan!

I may say more negative, but life is more negative. Daily life in Cambodia and Khmer Americans is more negative than positive. I want to talk about the high college graduation rate and successful Khmers, but they are the minority. I want to talk about the university grad in Cambodia that get jobs and are really educated.

[k82562131]

I wasn't born here but people tell me I wanted to be a white dude cos of my name change lol . when ever they call my name, white people look at me, WTF! damn I need to go change back to ma cambo name..

kyle really does sound americanish. i've never heard of a cambodian kyle.

when i got my citizenship, they asked me if i wanted to change my name. nope, i decided to keep my khmer name. if i was forced to change it, i'd name myself kobe or pau.

[soulmate]

+1

Have an Angkor Beer. :)


u make it look like fixing cambodia is like fixing a leaking sink. the issue is deeper than sending welfare money back home. its a cultural thing. have u been back to cambodia? men have mistresses and women are second class citizens unless yur Bun Rany and that other ho who rapes khmers of their property..fprgot her name..starts with K.

corruption is rampant too. the culture of impunity results in the downward spiral of cambodias social fabric. the money being sent back and money from grants aid arent going no where bc of corruption. expats khmers are sending money back, some are working over there but i agree there arent enough of them to help out. but the same time u cant deny that khmer "anakajun" i think thats the term arent doing anything to help the country. theres ALOT to fix so we are slowly fixing the country.
where do u live. u talk welfare ghetto this that. most khmers i know stopped receiving welfare.

[k82562131]

Same with "Titus" lol

hah, your name sounds like a name out of greek mythology!

is that your real name, tidus?

[kyle]

kyle really does sound americanish. i've never heard of a cambodian kyle.

when i got my citizenship, they asked me if i wanted to change my name. nope, i decided to keep my khmer name. if i was forced to change it, i'd name myself kobe or pau.

its funny huh , some asian fob that I use to work with before call me Kelly..I was like uhh, I'm a girl now..

[KHEN]

i know guy kellys

its funny huh , some asian fob that I use to work with before call me Kelly..I was like uhh, I'm a girl now..

[gaykhmerguy]

Most Khmers you know aren't on welfare, but Cambodian men have mistresses, Cambodian women are second class citizens, and full of corruption? U sound like a woman that list all of the problems in her man...and then end it with, "but he's a good man"...:).


u make it look like fixing cambodia is like fixing a leaking sink. the issue is deeper than sending welfare money back home. its a cultural thing. have u been back to cambodia? men have mistresses and women are second class citizens unless yur Bun Rany and that other ho who rapes khmers of their property..fprgot her name..starts with K.

corruption is rampant too. the culture of impunity results in the downward spiral of cambodias social fabric. the money being sent back and money from grants aid arent going no where bc of corruption. expats khmers are sending money back, some are working over there but i agree there arent enough of them to help out. but the same time u cant deny that khmer "anakajun" i think thats the term arent doing anything to help the country. theres ALOT to fix so we are slowly fixing the country.
where do u live. u talk welfare ghetto this that. most khmers i know stopped receiving welfare.

[gaykhmerguy]

People in the ghetto or those at a lesser advantage always complain about judging this and that. Educated people and observers see things as they are. Religious leaders can be labeled as people as judges, or you can see them as observers who say things as it is or at least from their own view. Right now, I believe statistics show that half of black men will end up unemployed. It's not to judge them..it's true.


People all over the world come to the United States, for a better life, it doesn't exactly mean oh you have to be a lawyer, doctor, or a journalist or you have to be rich and educated in some way. They come here to be free, to enjoy life the way it was meant to be whether it's laying on the beach, or gang banging down the streets "it is, what it is". From what I see the better person is the one who doesn't judge his fellow asians. Just thank your parents, that you're here in America and not buried 6 feet under nowhere.

[tevabuttz]

give us another 20 yrs!!!

[David Kim]

Stop confusing yourself!

Where you born has nothing to do with your ethnicity. What you're doing is like me saying that I don't like it when people say I look Asian...I'm American..lol. It doesn't make sense! I never argued about what Khmers look like, but I'm saying that much of Khmer society is mixed with Chinese or other, and look no different than them, so obviously people will think you're Chinese or East Asian.

And you agree that Khmers prefer light skin. Especially the men. Khmer men love light skin girls so much that we pretty much changed the image of what Khmers look like.

It's true. Most khmer men do prefer that light skin east asian type of girls. Khmer girls are whitening skin in an attempt please the men!

Go to youtube, and look up at some "hot khmer girls" or "hot khmer guys" video; you'll see a bunch of stupid irrelevant comments stating "not all khmer are dark" "The khmer guys that look indian are the one's that live in proverty" "Us Khmer are very diverse, we're not all dark" I'm like seriously, stfu.

[Tina Pheng]

Seriously, get over that shit.

[tuksuhew]

Khmer men prefer girls who look good. Skin color has nothing to do with it. A khmer guy will take a hot tanned skinned Cambodian girl over an ugly light skinned east Asian girl any day.

[LaoGuy]

Love sees no color, no? lol

[loplop]

Khmer men prefer girls who look good. Skin color has nothing to do with it. A khmer guy will take a hot tanned skinned Cambodian girl over an ugly light skinned east Asian girl any day.


Khmer men prefer girls who look good. Skin color has nothing to do with it. A khmer guy will take a hot tanned skinned Cambodian girl over an ugly light skinned east Asian girl any day.

You meant to say A KHMER AMERICAN man would prefer a hot tan skinned girl over a light skinned girl any day.

A Khmer man in SROK KHMER would prefer a hot light skinned girl over a hot dark skinned girl every day.

I was on a bus in Srok Khmer when Michael Jackson died. They showed like 1 1/2 hours of his DVD on the bus. His videos all started out when he was dark.......then to his videos in the latter years. When he was busting out with the funky nose and the bleached looking skin all the Khmer in the bus were talking about how handsome he had become.

Every other product in Cambodia is whitening cream. Just a couple years ago several Khmer girls died from using some unsafe imported whitening products. When Khmer see a girl that has gotten dark they will say she has "gotten ugly". When they get an office job and there skin lightens they will say she is beautiful.

[gaykhmerguy]

dark skin beautiful girl always chosen over ugly light skin, but beautiful light skin win over them all. It's just a fact that most asian men prefer light skin women and the mass experiment of ethnic transformation is proof. Plus the industry of skin whitener. Even women know that their chances of attracting men will increase if they were lighter.


Khmer men prefer girls who look good. Skin color has nothing to do with it. A khmer guy will take a hot tanned skinned Cambodian girl over an ugly light skinned east Asian girl any day.

[manguy44]

dark skin beautiful girl always chosen over ugly light skin, but beautiful light skin win over them all. It's just a fact that most asian men prefer light skin women and the mass experiment of ethnic transformation is proof. Plus the industry of skin whitener. Even women know that their chances of attracting men will increase if they were lighter.

i get it but you have to realize you're gay so dont speak for all the heterosexual men out there......

[gaykhmerguy]

I don't have to speak for straight men. It's just the truth. Look at Cambodia, look at most Khmer Americans, and look at the media and entertainment Khmers consume, plus skin whitening. If you look at educated and power Khmer men, a light skin women is not far behind.


i get it but you have to realize you're gay so dont speak for all the heterosexual men out there......

[Paully]

I don't prefer Black, and I don't prefer Pale. I prefer Healthy Skin Complexion. Keyword "Healthy." When someone has a healthy glow, it doesn't matter their color, they'll look good. Problem with domestic khmer woman is they're behind in the ways of facial cleansing. Most of them work the market, sweat, walk around with dirt in the air, shower, sleep, and repeat the next day. So if a man had to choose between dirty brownskin vs white skin - prolly pick white skin. My guess, this whole misconception on whiteskin preference stems from khmer woman not doing some Noxzema(or equivalent) once in awhile which makes them less attractractive in comparison. Put a Tan or Black woman with healthy skin next to a white smoker, who would look better?

[loplop]

i get it but you have to realize you're gay so dont speak for all the heterosexual men out there......

Of course not. I LOVE the dark Khmer girls and like them more than the like skinned ones, but I wasn't raised in Asia. But if you were to ask a Cambodian in Cambodia whether he would prefer a dark skinned girl or a light skinned girl it'd be like asking him if he wanted a girl with a nice big set of tits or some little mosquito bite tits. Obviously can't speak for all heterosexual men, but most would prefer the big tits.

[tuksuhew]

Lighter skinned is preferred in Cambodia but you can pretty much say that about the rest of the world as well. You see it India, Japan, China, middle east, Mexico etc etc. Lighter skinned is preferred in all these countries. People don't like to talk about it because it's not politically correct and it offends a lot of people but the fact of the matter is, the lighter your skin is, the more respect you get. It's messed up but that's just how the world operates.

[manguy44]

Of course not. I LOVE the dark Khmer girls and like them more than the like skinned ones, but I wasn't raised in Asia. But if you were to ask a Cambodian in Cambodia whether he would prefer a dark skinned girl or a light skinned girl it'd be like asking him if he wanted a girl with a nice big set of tits or some little mosquito bite tits. Obviously can't speak for all heterosexual men, but most would prefer the big tits.

yeah i understand what you mean but at least you're straight and i can take your opinion more seriously...lol i'm attracted to khmer/asian women, regardless of their skin tone but like you said, i was born and raised in america....asian girls over here are less obsessed with having light skin

[gaykhmerguy]

It's no different in America. Most Asian Americans prefer light skin. When an asian guy say he prefer dark skin, he's usually dark himself and is mainly limited to dark skin girls. Dark skin guys that got money and power in Asia have so many women to choose from...they usually chose light skin.

It's true that girls in America are less obssessed with having light skin as the stakes are not high. In Asia, having light skin could mean the difference between being poor or rich. In America, we have welfare.


yeah i understand what you mean but at least you're straight and i can take your opinion more seriously...lol i'm attracted to khmer/asian women, regardless of their skin tone but like you said, i was born and raised in america....asian girls over here are less obsessed with having light skin

[manguy44]

It's no different in America. Most Asian Americans prefer light skin. When an asian guy say he prefer dark skin, he's usually dark himself and is mainly limited to dark skin girls. Dark skin guys that got money and power in Asia have so many women to choose from...they usually chose light skin.

It's true that girls in America are less obssessed with having light skin as the stakes are not high. In Asia, having light skin could mean the difference between being poor or rich. In America, we have welfare.

hey buddy, i said asian-americans are more tolerant and the girls are less sensitive over this issue. i know dark khmer/asian-american girls who enjoy tanning at the beach and swimming pool, this is something you wont see in asia

i've also seen asian-american girls with really fake looking/sprayed on bronzed tan......you will normally not see this in asia. things are different over here especially when you see white people tanning everywhere and trying to get darker

[DoungJan]

They can be completely americanize or be a very well cultured person. It's depend on what kind of family he/she borns in. I mean if he/she is born in a well-cultured family, that person might grow up to be culture oriented. My roommate from freshman year was khmer born in america but she was a very well cultured person, speak khmer fluently..Her family was also culture oriented. So it depends on the environment.

[SunnyBlack]

most of those who put khmer ppl down cant even speak proper khmer if at all
I don't see the relevance in this statement

[gaykhmerguy]

There is no relevance. That's just something a lot of a-holes say. They neglect the fact that Khmer Americans were raised in America, around non-Khmers, and many weren't taught it by their parents. Many Khmers in Cambodia can't even read Khmer, but that has little to do with pride. More to do with environment.

Saying this is just a dumb as how some say that you have to be Buddhist to be Khmer.


I don't see the relevance in this statement

[DoungJan]

If you are born in the USA you are NOT Khmer. You are AMERICAN...I beg to differ. ethnicity wise, you will be khmer, but nationality wise, you will be americans.

[soulmate]

this is an interesting thread... keep it going, ya'll. me likie likie. hi Doungjan meas tik dop. :)

[gaykhmerguy]

yeah, it was pretty stupid to say that somebody is insulted if others thought they were of a certain nationality.


I don't think you should feel insulted that you're being compare to a different ethnicity of Asians but I do feel that you should be insulted if you're compare to THAT girl in your picture. The girl in the picture doesn't represent the rest of her people. In Japan, there are people who despises this kind of behavior. It's cute to one group but not to another. Personally, I think it is silly but at the same time, I don't even give a shit about it anyhow. People do what people what.

What's the difference between you feeling insulted because someone thinks you're Japanese versus someone who says they're insulted because they're being compare to Cambodians?

People confuses me all the time with being Chinese, or Japanese or Thai or Filipino and I have no problem with it. I just tell them that I'm Khmer.

[sSilentxstarzZ]

I don't think you should feel insulted that you're being compare to a different ethnicity of Asians but I do feel that you should be insulted if you're compare to THAT girl in your picture. The girl in the picture doesn't represent the rest of her people. In Japan, there are people who despises this kind of behavior. It's cute to one group but not to another. Personally, I think it is silly but at the same time, I don't even give a shit about it anyhow. People do what people what.

What's the difference between you feeling insulted because someone thinks you're Japanese versus someone who says they're insulted because they're being compare to Cambodians?

People confuses me all the time with being Chinese, or Japanese or Thai or Filipino and I have no problem with it. I just tell them that I'm Khmer.


yeah, it was pretty stupid to say that somebody is insulted if others thought they were of a certain nationality.
Both of you misunderstood what I was saying. There's a reason why I posted that particular photo with the girl making that stupid face.

I said "I feel like I'm being compared to this: [insert photo] and I find that insulting". Keywords: feel; this. I'm not ignorant. I know she doesn't represent all the girls of that ethnic background. The word "feel" suggests that IN MY MIND, that is what I FEEL like I am being compared to. I didn't say that everyone who compares me to an east Asian is comparing me to her or girls who do stupid poses(personal opinion) like she is doing. I don't know what image is on their minds unless they tell me. I don't make generalizing statements as if I know an entire group of people like you do, GKG. You're just upset because I'm going against your argument that all Khmer girls would prefer to be told that they look east Asian.

[gaykhmerguy]

Just don't say anything! It's insulting to Japanese girls, and most of all, to yourself! There's a no win strategy in what you trying to explain.



Both of you misunderstood what I was saying. There's a reason why I posted that particular photo with the girl making that stupid face.

I said "I feel like I'm being compared to this: [insert photo] and I find that insulting". Keywords: feel; this. I'm not ignorant. I know she doesn't represent all the girls of that ethnic background. The word "feel" suggests that IN MY MIND, that is what I FEEL like I am being compared to. I didn't say that everyone who compares me to an east Asian is comparing me to her or girls who do stupid poses(personal opinion) like she is doing. I don't know what image is on their minds unless they tell me. I don't make generalizing statements as if I know an entire group of people like you do, GKG. You're just upset because I'm going against your argument that all Khmer girls would prefer to be told that they look east Asian.

[gaykhmerguy]

Sorry man...don't be offended that I own better than you.


You know, I wish you would stop chiming in your two damn cents.

leave this to adults you half-way midget.

[k82562131]

I get offended when I look at myself

[Ivan]

What the hell is this thread even about o_O

[sSilentxstarzZ]

Just don't say anything! It's insulting to Japanese girls, and most of all, to yourself! There's a no win strategy in what you trying to explain.
Who are you to tell me not to say anything? lmao. I get it...I've accidentally offended you. Jeeze, my bad. I didn't know you looked like that girl. your fault for not posting a pic of yourself. Sorry. lol

[articulated]

Tell a Khmer girl she looks Khmer...and she gives you an ugly or neutral look. Tell her she looks Vietnamese, Chinese,...and heck, kick it up a notch and say Japanese and her face will light up.

That's a very sad way of thinking.


Ladies....is this true? :confused:

I would be excited/proud if I was told I looked Khmer.
Mainly because I have grown up my entire life being told that I didn't.

[gaykhmerguy]

You didn't offend me. I'm just saying that what you're saying is making a fool out of yourself. To say you feel insulted when somebody say you look Japanese??? Does that sound like a winning statement? LOL!


Who are you to tell me not to say anything? lmao. I get it...I've accidentally offended you. Jeeze, my bad. I didn't know you looked like that girl. your fault for not posting a pic of yourself. Sorry. lol

[Jayavarman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSuESzOEl-s

[Khmer]

......


Ummmm what what was manguy's OP about?